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# Thema - 24.02.2010 um 19:12 Uhr
Was just thinking about this...

In X3 there is some balance between the races and ships. (Maybe not in the Kestrels case, but even then, it's close).

A M5 is fairly well matched with another M5, a destroyer is almost always a match for another destroyer. (Unless player armed for the occasion).

Will this happen in your mod, or will we have more of an "As seen on TV approach, where a Sharlin is more than a match for most other species ships, etc.


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# Antwort: 1 - 25.02.2010 um 13:08 Uhr
Let's just put it this way. You won't take out a Sharlin with an Omega destroyer

Likewise, you won't easily take out a Nial with a Starfury.

However. It will have a degree of balancing. In the show, you got the distinct impression that a Sharlin could take out a fleet of Omega's simply cos the Omega's could never lock on. CLearly this would, a tad, annoying. So you'll be able to take out a Sharlin, you'll just need to be a bit more tactical about where you hit the craft.... not that a Sharlin has many "blind spots"

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A2597


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# Antwort: 2 - 25.02.2010 um 15:19 Uhr
yea, part of what brought this question on is that the Homeworld 2 mod is as of yet unbalanced....and I got to watch the full fury of a Sharlin War cruiser against two warlocks and some Hyperions...

I won the fight, but lost a couple ships in the process. And though "Damn, I want to see that from a fighters prospective!"

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# Antwort: 3 - 25.02.2010 um 15:26 Uhr
We are pretty much with the series there, but you dont need to be afraid, it should still be fun to play.
But as Spuddy has said already you need a bit more than one omega to kill a sharlin. Otherwise it wouldnt feel like b5, dont you think?

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# Antwort: 4 - 28.07.2010 um 07:02 Uhr
Sharlin is far stronger than an omega yes. I think it would be interesting to see how it handles a white star in combat. They are stronger than any of the current EA ships except the later EA/IAS victory. That ship would probably hold its own if it used its main cannon.

http://www.b5tech.com/oldb5tech/minbari /minbariships/sharlin/sharlin.html

the sharlin is very heavily armed. This is also relative to which version you run into. I would not want to run into the Sharkaan or Sharoos version. There is the Valen'tha which is a single vessle the Grey sharlin which is very powerful and very special which is only seen in minbari space. This is the home of the grey council and has all the best secret techs on it.

I personally would like to see this mod as realistic to the show as possible. I am personally tired of games where a shadow vessel can come in and hit with its beam weapon and not just slice a ship. in the show they even did this to vorlon ships and vice versa. One of the best space games off all time Eve-online had a sense of loss. Fear of dying really fast if you end up in the wrong place at the wrong time gives that adreneline sense of loss. Besides u can just load yer save.

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croxis


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# Antwort: 5 - 28.07.2010 um 18:09 Uhr
Thing to remember that (in my opinion) this is a game first, babylon 5 simulation second.

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# Antwort: 6 - 28.07.2010 um 19:06 Uhr
Interesting. For me it's a babylon5 simulation first and a game second.

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# Antwort: 7 - 28.07.2010 um 20:40 Uhr
Then why are there shield

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# Antwort: 8 - 29.07.2010 um 09:54 Uhr
There isn't. It is the armor. Don't know if we managed to work on it yet. (rename and so on)

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# Antwort: 9 - 29.07.2010 um 13:46 Uhr
Balance would dictate Vorlon and Shadows would not be overly tough. Realistically they should effectively one hit kill all other races.

I am for "realistic" deadly shadows and impossible First Ones. It is more in keeping with the show. I agree with Amras, it is a simulator first, a game second.

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# Antwort: 10 - 30.07.2010 um 01:30 Uhr
hmm But you forgot something there are shields
Season 3 Episode War without end Part 1 Video-Transmition from b5 getting vaporized and some other episodes in season 1 2 and 4
but i have to say its a b5 game conversion of x3tc
we try to get as close as the game let us and if 1 shot or 2 shots thats not the point but a shadow needing 5 mins for one ship ... thats failed but if you like try it out
i did it and i will nevver do it again
get in a hs sector and insert 50 shadow battlecrab arm them with shadow death ray
and then run
i made me 500 to give the shadows some ships and aaah yes last i need to say i had god mode on and it diddnt helped me out
and i had an omega
we are close to the truth

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# Antwort: 11 - 30.07.2010 um 11:48 Uhr
He can't add the Battlecrabs...I removed the meshes just before release...same for the Vorlons and a whole host of other ships that had no weapons or needed editing or had no sectors or were top secret
We will try to stay true to the show in terms of race power. If you take on the Cent/Minbari with the EA you will need to outnumber them or out think them. If you take on the Vorlon or Shadows u will need an army of light and a great GPU. But as Sheridan said there's no such thing as an unbeatable enemy

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# Antwort: 12 - 30.07.2010 um 13:46 Uhr
Hmm...taking on the shadows...

there *are* nukes in the game, right?

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# Antwort: 13 - 30.07.2010 um 16:01 Uhr
Nukes, an armada of massive proportions, a good few long range Sagittarius misslie Frigates and more luck than you can poke a stick at!

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